Please explain how this makes sense...

First off, I very much enjoy this app. Helps me kill time whenever I want to ignore my girlfriend everyday/allday. Help me to understand better. Why do the darts you purchase diminish whenever a new dart is available or you level up? Especially with no trade in option available. I have multiple sets of pricey darts Cuesoul and Pegasus Tungsten- stainless steel you name it. Like $75USD. Darts don’t digress. And why are the darts 56,000 coins? That’s crazy expensive. Coins aren’t very easy to get. I’m at level 93. By the time I win enough to get better darts, I level up and then fall short by 8,000 coins. And the gems? Really? 2,000 gems for the special stuff. Come on guys/gals/other, I work in business and seems like y’all are banking off of in app purchases and not the customer. I’ve been playing for months and don’t think I’ve had over 350 gems total. Y’all are making it a money app and not even thinking about the consumer/gamer/other. At least let us sell back our darts the we’ll never use again. Like that makes perfect sense. Also, the attributes for the darts are set waaayyyy too high. Instead of the darts diminishing, how bout you’ll just use some brain power and start the attribute numbers lower and barely increase them with the levels. Because the back and forth isn’t even logical. Spent 49,900 coins on a dart. Thing was a beast. 93-97-94 attributes. I go up one dang league and boom that same dart is now 51-50-42. Looks really sketchy. Help us out here.

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    Tim Dietz

    If the stats remained the same there would be no reason to upgrade. Lowering the stats is essentially the same as raising the max max potential rating. Also remember the objective of any app is to make money

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    Forest Nance

    You must not play EA games like Fifa and Madden..... You don’t start Tom Brady off as a 98 overall when he’s a rookie. The initial darts should’ve been rated waayyyy lower than 50’s and 60’s. Don’t make the darts so badass in the first place. Let them start at “12-14-3” and go up from there. You’d definitely need to upgrade from there dodo. So you’re saying it makes sense to spend 80K on a dart that’s 90-98-96 specs for it to fall to 60-56-73 after 2 levels? You can’t even make your coin back that you spent on the damn thing by then. I know everyone wants to make money, but I’m not a person who spends on in app purchases. Too trivial. Are you also going to answer the other questions or is business degree knowledge too much for you? Jw!

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    Martin Liu (Edited )

    Broooo don't even get me started with unbalanced, money making , near 0 actual personal customization, and super easy game play ... This is one of my favourite dart app, when I discovered it I stopped playing Everything else, now I come back once Ina while to see if learnt that making app money is not all about find ways for people so spend money other than game play... I still think for a dart game, they do have the most realistic control of throwing an actual dart.. sad times :( come on get it together I believe in you guys stop getting sucked by the devil...that's a little too far. Just... Read the comments from players you know why they're complaining
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    Tim Dietz

    I have played Madden and FIFA, and thus I know that it's not in a good analogy.    
    There are 180 levels in this game.  In order to step the stats up gradually over several darts per league you'd have to go up by tiny miniscule amounts, such that people wouldn't perceive any reason to do it, the darts appear virtually identical.  Would you spend a bunch of points (either coin or cash bought gems) on a dart with a stability of 31 vs. the one you already have with 30?   
    LIke it or not the points of apps existing is not solely to entertain you for free.  They need to incentivize you to spend points and watch adds to get bonus points.   If you're not going to spend points quickly they other option they have is to charge you for using the app.    

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    Martin Liu

    Tim. We all every developer know won't turn this games into a paid app. It's like Costco charge for free samples lol

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    Tim Dietz

    yes I know, that's why I'm saying they must employ other common strategies in order to keep users engaged and playing and watching adds/microtransacting.

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    Shivendra Ajodha

    Well said Forest Nance..I was looking to comment about the Dart fiasco...its ridiculous... Tim Dietz probably works for this app company. And if you play any of these EA games you pay for the game up front..then you work yourself up to different levels and get different players.

    So this dart buying..is rather getting expensive...these guys are making a killing...I have to pay 10 bucks to get new darts.

    I thought it was me...but now I know this is a trend. Thanks for the solidifying this scheme this company is playing.

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    Tim Dietz

    I don't work for the company, I just have common sense.  The makers of this app did not do it for charity's sake, simply to entertain you for free.    The "scheme" here is to make money for the effort of designing and serving this app, which you are under no obligation to use.  They want you to watch ads and get paid by advertisers and/or get paid by you.   That's how the world works.   Cry about it some more and see if it changes your life.

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    Skribble26

    U sir (tim dietz) are the reason the world is like it is and people want to shoot people it makes it hard for us hard working consumers to relax and enjoy a game when all u guys do is worry about making money from us and advertisers which im sure advertising pays the makers of this app more in one week than any one of us make in a year and thats bullsh** u guys show us how the world is and thats where u guys lose business on how damn greedy u are and how much u put ur greed and selfishness before the entertainment of ur customers, and as for common sence u have got to be joking cause if u did u would understand that consumers are what makes or breaks a company and telling us that they are more worried about making money then giving us entertainment i can guarantee u wont have too many repeat customers even when u make a new game they see the company credits right as soon as u look at info and that how easy they canstart to not get a game or app cause u know if u had common sence u would know that people can post this shit all over social media and cause others to see what ungrateful money hungry low life theives u are and they will do what is called a boycott and refuse to purchace/play/or even download a game made by u or ur affiliates which in return lowers sales od ur paid advertisers who are the sole reason u guys have funding to employ punk a** disrespectful people like urself. Thanks for reading and have a nice day. just my opinion and dont mean no disrespect to anyone in this comment!

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    Tim Dietz

    I am "the reason the world is like it is and people want to shoot people"?   Christ you are batshit crazy.  I can play that game too.  You're an entitled little crybaby who thinks you should have everything for free and places no value on other people's time and effort.     You have absolutely no idea how the app making world works (or likely even basic economic concepts), and you don't know how much money they make.   You want money?  Get a job and stop playing DOF all day.   People don't do shit purely to entertain you.   Based on how butthurt you are it's clear you spend probably hours a day playing this game, probably more time than you would have spent playing a playstation game you would have spent $60+ on.    They have two ways to make money, they get paid by advertisers or they get paid by you.  You don't want to pay?  Then watch ads.  You don't want to watch ads either?  Then play another damn game, loser. 

    again, I don't work for this company.  If i did I wouldn't tell you grow up and fuck off.   Please cry about it some more while you keep playing this game for free.

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    Kevin Smith

    Whilst I agree the way its set up seems questionable, it's probably worth reminding people that you paid nothing to download the game. It's up to you then whether you want to pay for in game items. I mean, I would prefer an app which is paid up front and the levelling of your gear is easier, but all the same I've had a good time with this game and it's cost me nothing.

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    Shelley-Ann Janse van Rensburg

    I couldn't agree more with Kevin. Every one of us has a choice whether or not to buy darts. I spent a fortune on darts, but st the end of the day, I have really had fun playing darts and it had been an absolute challenge. We have some real monsters. I feel there are far more important issues regarding dof that should be addressed. That just my opinion and not my intention to offend anyone. Xxx

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    Hussein Mustafa

    I read all this stuff up there.. I am level 138 and I feel very differently.. maybe the only way to balance it out was to give chance to win more gold coins. And they did that by introducing battle games where you can win 1000 to 3000 coins at once. So if that dart you need to give you the edge is couple thousand coins away.. battle it out.. get some coins and stop whining. And you don't always have to buy the first level of dart for your league . You can wait and save up to get the middle level that will give you enough edge over the lower rated members in your league.

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    TONE

    Im only lvl 9 and im sitting on 5mil in gold cause i stopped playing league as soon as i realized its not a live player so i basically stopped progressing. I can only play count up and i have all 3 unlocked and i just play 3 all day. Almost 1900 total matches and 78% win ratio overall. Save ur money and eventually u will have enough

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    Anthony Nelson

    I love this game man the darts fall off way too quick two three matches anyway I'm having a good time on the sex in the dark fall off toe

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    Anthony Nelson

    I don't think I just said that whatever

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    Brett Jeisy

    Okay, not to change the subject but why not open up the battle games with more (i.e., around the world, crazy cricket, etc.?

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